Documenting my family's past for future generations. My family tree includes the Smith/Mansell families of Alabama and Oklahoma, the Castle/Day families of Kentucky and Oklahoma, the Wheat/Ming families of Texas and Oklahoma, and the Bell/Roberts families of Mississippi, Tennessee, and Oklahoma.

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Friday, July 17, 2020

Roberts Family Revisited

Jackson County, Tennessee, was created in 1801, formed from the eastern part of Smith County. It is located in Middle Tennessee about 80 miles east of Nashville. Ancestry users often confuse it with the city of Jackson in Madison County in West Tennessee. In fact, it's almost a giveaway that Ancestry users haven't really done their own research (ie., have borrowed names and places from other users) if they identify a Jackson County person as one from Jackson, Madison County. Jackson County is best known now as the location of Historic Granville (granvilletn.com). Formed in 1999 to preserve the history of the riverboat town, the attractions include museums, a Pioneer Village, the Sutton General Store, music events, heritage days, and a genealogy festival. My brother and I visited a few years ago.


Granville Museum

Sutton General Store

My brother having his first pimiento cheese sandwich (and an RC Cola)
at Sutton General Store


An 1872 courthouse fire destroyed many records of early Jackson County. The 1810 census is missing, as well as marriage and probate records from 1801 to 1871. I suspect that is the reason that I have had such a hard time identifying the parents of my 2nd great-grandparents, Stephen and Elzina (Huff) Roberts. They first appear on the 1850 census as a married couple, so since the previous censuses don't list children by name, I have no way of knowing to which families they belonged.

I've been following genealogist Amy Johnson Crow's series about her research method, which she calls WANDER. First, she says to identify WHAT you really want to know. The next step is to ANALYZE what you already have, and then NOTE what you are missing. I have been trying to apply this method to the question, "Who are the parents of Elzina Huff and Stephen Roberts?" So let's analyze what I already know.

As I said above, the first time that either Stephen or Elzina appears in records is on the 1850 census. They are living in District 15, Jackson County, Tennessee. Stephen's age is reported as 40 (birth year 1810) and his occupation as farming. His wife is enumerated as Elsy, age 30. (Every census shows a different spelling of Elzina's name. Elzina/Elzinia/Elzinah is the spelling of her name on her 1874 divorce complaint, which she "signed"--with her mark--so that is the name I have used in my tree. More about the divorce later.) Children Polly, age 7; Samuel, age 4; and Nancy, age 1 are enumerated with their parents. All members of the family were born in Tennessee.

On the 1860 census the family is enumerated in District 15 of Jackson County with the nearest post office listed as Granville. Stephen is age 44 (birth year 1816) and his occupation is given as Day Laborer. Elcena is age 34. Children are Mary (Polly), age 16; Nancy, 11; Henry, 9; John, 4; and Thomas, 2. 

The 1870 census, again in District 15, Jackson County, shows Stephen age 50 (birth year 1820); Eliza, age 45; Nancy, 20; Henry, 18; Ellis (John), 16; Permelia, 14; Thomas, 11; Caleb, 7; and Nathan, 2. Included with the Roberts family at this household (Dwelling Number 176) are George Huff, age 26, and his wife Mariah, age 19. 


1870 Jackson County census
George's wife Mariah is on the next page

A couple of weird things show up on this census. First, a new daughter has been added between John Ellis and Thomas--Permelia, age 14. I think this is my great-grandmother Cornelia, who would have been 5 on this census. As hard as it is to believe that the census taker could get both the name and age wrong, I think that is what happened. I have looked for a Permelia, just in case she existed, but I have never found her again on any document, and if you look carefully at the 1860 census, you can see that there is not room between John and Thomas for another child, but there is room between Caleb and Nathan. In addition, Cornelia will show up on the divorce complaint as a child of the marriage and Permelia will not. 

The other weird thing is the addition of George and Mariah Huff to the household. I have puzzled over this for years, especially after I realized that newlyweds George Washington and Mariah (Lambert) Huff were enumerated in their own home (Dwelling Number 63) on this same census. My guess has always been that even though the census taker mistook Cornelia's name and age, he took his job seriously and enumerated the people he found at the Roberts household on September 3, 1870. George and Mariah were just visiting. The burning question is, How are they related to Stephen and Elzina? If I knew that, I would have a big clue as to the parents of (probably) Elzina. Was George her cousin, her brother? Maybe I do have a clue here to analyze later.

The next big piece of information I have about Stephen and Elzina is Elzina's divorce complaint from 1874. In it she seeks divorce from Stephen, with whom she had lived "tolerable harmoniously from the time of the marriage except at times when defendant would indulge in the use of ardent spirits." As stated in the complaint, Stephen was "a habitual drunkard when he could get whiskey" at which time he was "in the habit of abusing the complainant." 


1874 divorce complaint, page 2 of 7


Elzina lived with this state of affairs for 35 or 36 years, as she states in the complaint, until May 1872 when Stephen "willfully and maliciously abandoned [her] and children without any just or noble cause." She names their children as "John E. Roberts, Thomas J. Roberts, Calip (Caleb) L. Roberts, Cornelia Roberts, Nathan Roberts, Nancy Roberts and Henry Roberts, the two last being of age." She states that Stephen left her and the children "without any provisions to subsist on whatever" and "for more than two whole years before the filing of this bill ... has the defendant ever furnished...one item of support...either directly or indirectly." Sadly, she further states, within those two years two of the children, John E. and Caleb, had "departed this life." 

I hadn't read the 7-page handwritten document in a while. It isn't easy to read due to the handwriting and the legal language. However, analyzing it for more detail, I found a couple of statements that may help me in my search for Elzina's parents. While I had noticed before that Stephen and Elzina lived "in Jackson County on the waters of Martin's Creek," I had never noticed Elzina's statements that she was "born and raised in Jackson County Tennessee within two miles of where she now lives" or that she and Stephen "intermarried in Jackson County Tennessee near where [she] now lives." If I could ever determine from land records exactly where Elzina lived on the 1850, 1860, and 1870 censuses, I could look for neighbors within two miles who could have been her parents. Unfortunately, those land records probably don't exist as they fall in that window of 1801-1871 for which documents are scarce because of the courthouse fire. 

Moving on to the last piece of information I have about Elzina--the 1880 census of Caldwell County, Kentucky. I have tried and tried to determine why the Roberts family (minus Stephen) moved to this particular place. I have looked for people with any related family name living close to the family on this census, and I can't find any obvious connections. Living in the Harmony District, Caldwell County, Kentucky, are Elmira, age 54, divorced; Nancy, 24; James H., 18; Thomas J., 14; Cornelia, 13; and Nathan J., 12. John Grider, farm laborer, is also enumerated with the family. (Later he would marry Nancy.)

Oh, and by the way, in 1880 Stephen is still back in Jackson County, age 67 (birth year 1813), claiming to be a widower. He is living with his nephew Nathan, son of Stephen's brother Caleb. 

The 1880 census is the last mention I can find of Elzina in written documents. As to her children--I don't know what happened to James H. (Henry). Thomas stayed in Kentucky and is enumerated with wife and children on the 1900 census in Trigg County (next door to Caldwell), where he died in 1936. Cornelia married Thomas Jefferson Bell in Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory, in 1893 and is enumerated there with her husband and children on the 1900 census. James Nathan married first, Isabelle Anderson, and then Callie Grotts in Troy, Indian Territory, in 1903. Later Cornelia and Nathan will both live in Hughes County, Oklahoma, and Nathan will attend Thomas's funeral in Trigg County, Kentucky, in 1936. Cornelia died in Dustin, Hughes County, in 1938, and Nathan in Barnard, Hughes County, in 1951. Cornelia is buried at Dustin, and Nathan about 15 miles south of Dustin at Lamar. I requested death certificates for Cornelia and James Nathan from the State of Oklahoma, hoping they might show the maiden name of their mother. No luck--apparently there was no consistent reporting of deaths in Hughes County, even as late as 1951.

Before we leave the paper trail of Elzina Huff Roberts, one last observation--on her date of birth as revealed by the census record. She is 30 on the first census in which she appears by name, the 1850, making her birth year 1820. By 1860 she has only aged 4 years to 34. In 1870 she is 45, and in 1880 she is 54. These last three censuses are fairly constant, so I have always estimated Elzina's birth date to about 1826. However--in the divorce complaint, dated 1874, she claims that she and Stephen had been married 35 or 36 years. That would mean they married in 1838, which would make Elzina 12 when they married. Their first child, Polly, was born in 1838. I guess it's just hard for me to believe that Elzina could have been 12 or 13 at the birth of her first child. Now I tend to think it's more probable that she was born about 1820. Stephen's birth dates on the census range from 1810 to 1820 with no consistency except that he is always older than Elzina, usually about 10 years. Most researchers give his birth year as 1813.

You know how you can look at something for years and then all of a sudden really see it? I just realized that on my Ancestry page for Elzina I have actual birth and death dates. The birth date is 8 September 1826 and the death date is 16 October 1901, place given as Troy, Indian Territory. However, I have no idea where these dates came from. I think they might have come from a descendant of James Nathan. It sounds like they could be from a headstone, but in the past (and then again this week) I looked and looked in the vicinity of Troy (now located in Johnston County, OK) and found no Findagrave entry for Elzina, or anyone with those dates.

N in Amy Johnson Crow's research method, WANDER, stands for Note What Is Missing. Wow, I feel like I have tried everything but I'm sure there is something I've forgotten. I don't know what land records are available for Jackson County. That might be helpful if Elzina and Stephen were living on family land. I have looked and looked at the census records, hoping to find new clues. Amazingly, last week the census records in combination with Ancestry's Thru-Lines gave me a new piece of information. 


Ancestry Thru-Lines for Stephen Roberts

I always wondered what happened to Mary (Polly) and Samuel, the two oldest children of Elzina and Stephen. Samuel never appears again after the 1850 census where he was age 4, so I assume he died young. Polly is on the 1850 and 1860 censuses with the Roberts family, but I was never able to determine what happened to her or where she was after 1860. Well, as it turns out, she wasn't very far, as I have discovered since beginning this post. 

I decided to check Ancestry's Thrulines for Stephen and Elzina while I was analyzing what I know about the Roberts family. I found four descendants of Polly that showed in their trees that she had married John Clemons. Clemons is one of those Jackson County names that you recognize, although I didn't know my family had any connection to them. Each of the descendants of John and Polly share 7 cm's with me. (By the way, on August 1 Ancestry is deleting all matches who share less than 8 total cm's. If I had not found these matches in July, they would have been gone in August.)

John Clemons was born in 1815 and had been the head of household on censuses since 1840. His first wife was named Delilah (some trees show her as a daughter of James Pharris and Alcy Moreland). They had Alexander, Caldonia, Harriet, Ollie Frances, Mary, Martha, and Albert, before Delilah died sometime in the early 1860's. John and Polly must have married about 1865, because Polly gave birth to Sidney in 1866, followed by Margaret, Moreland, Cora Jane, and Thomas. (Sidney's death certificate confirms that his mother was indeed Polly Roberts. Tom's death certificate names "Mollie?" as his mother. Polly and Molly were both very common nicknames for Mary.)

On the 1870 census the Clemons family is enumerated at household #171, while the Roberts family resides at household #179. John, age 55, is the head of household, followed by Mary, age 25. The rest of the family consists of Martha and Albert, the children of John's first wife, and Sidney and Margaret, who are both presumably Polly's. John is listed on the 1800 Census Mortality Schedule, which says he died in February 1880 at age 69. Polly must have died within months, because on the 1880 census the younger children, Sidney, Margaret, Moreland, Cora, and Thomas, are all living with their half-brother Alexander and his family. The marriage of John and Mary/Polly could have easily slipped through the cracks. In fact, in the indexing of the census entry Mary is listed as one of the "inferred children" of John. I'm not sure I would have ever discovered it without the trees of my DNA matches.  

I know a lot about how my great-grandmother Cornelia's life turned out. She was always an unhappy person, I think. She married a kind man and was awful to him, according to her granddaughters. I always felt sorry for her--brought up in this dysfunctional family with a drunken father, brothers who died, and a mother who was trying her best to keep the rest of them from starving to death. But poor Polly! Reading between the lines of the stark data of her life, you can see that she took her chance to get out of an unhappy situation by marrying a man 30 years her senior. As a recent widower in her neighborhood, he was probably looking for someone to take care of his existing children. She then had five children in ten years and died. It is to be hoped that her children remembered something about her, but their loved ones obviously didn't even know her name for her children's death certificates. How sad!

Death certificate of Sidney Clemons, only child to
show mother as Polly Roberts


I used to correspond with several descendants of Jackson County families, but we were all stuck at the same place and eventually we lost contact. I thought it couldn't hurt to contact some descendants through Ancestry, especially those who live in or close to Jackson Co. I found a DNA match to me who had a tree on Ancestry that included some of the same names I have in my tree--not a descendant of Elzina and Stephen, but of some of their possible ancestors. She looked like a friendly person with a carefully constructed tree, so I messaged her. After several messages back and forth, we identified a possible common ancestor, but in one of her emails she mentioned an ancestor of hers that I had always had questions about. In answering my questions, she mentioned her ancestor's first husband--John Clemons! It turns out that her ancestor was John's first wife and my 2nd great-aunt Polly was his second. Many of her first cousins are involved with the genealogy festival at Granville, and one of John and Polly's descendants runs the town! I'm so glad I contacted her. 

Back to the question of the day: Who were the parents of Elzina and Stephen?

I wish I could remember who first told me, or where I first read, that Elzina's parents were William Nathan Huff and Susanna Toney. Almost everybody who has Elzina in a tree identifies these two as her parents. The trouble is, there is absolutely no proof. 

There was a Susanna Huff in Jackson County. Her birth dates vary widely on the censuses from 26-44 in 1820 to 60-69 in 1830 to 50-59 in 1840. Depending on which one you believe, she might have been too old to be the mother of Elzina, whose birth date falls somewhere between 1820 and 1826. No proof exists for her maiden name of Toney either, as far as I have found, although Toneys did live in Jackson County. She is never named in conjunction with her husband. In fact, Betty Huff Bryant, probably the leading expert on Martin's Creek, remarks in her book, Building Neighborhoods, that "George Huff is possibly the wandering husband of Susanna Huff." Whether Susanna's husband was dead or "wandering," she is named as head of household on the 1820, 1830, and 1840 censuses. There are children in her household (enumerated by age in 1830 and 1840) who could be Elzina.

However, as far as I can tell, there is no such person as William Nathan Huff. There is a William Huff and there is a Nathan Huff, but they are not the same person, and no documentation exists to prove that a person by either name married Susanna. An article written by a Huff researcher in The Jackson County Family History Book: 200 Years of Memories in 1989 may provide the origin of "William Nathan Huff." In trying to reconcile the available documentation with the information passed down to descendants, the writer of the document surmised that William Huff, the probable husband of Susanna and father of Sam Huff, had a second name, Nathan. It appears there was a custom among German communities of giving two names--one for casual use and one for legal records. Since descendants insisted that the husband of Susanna and father of Sam was called Nathan, that person must have been named William Nathan Huff. The identification of William as Susanna's husband seems to be circumstantially based on legal and land records and family legends.

The aforementioned article names the children of William and Susanna as Sam, George, Nathan, Sara and Elender. Elzina is not named as one of their children, although many Huff researchers make much of the fact that Sara/Sally was Elzina's sister, and that the two sisters married brothers, Caleb and Stephen Roberts. Some also put Nathan "Tash" Huff in the same category as Elzina: born too late to be the son of William and Susanna. I'm not sure to which George the article refers, but George Washington Huff (who visited Stephen and Elzina in 1870) was the son of Sam, not William.

The Roberts side has been even harder. I had no family story about the parents of Stephen. There were several Roberts men in early Jackson County, any of whom could have been the father of Stephen and Caleb, including an older Stephen Roberts that was living and buying land there in 1813. Most trees on Ancestry show the parents of Stephen as Reuben Roberts (1744-1841) and Mary "Millie" Asher (1759-1847) who lived in Warren County, Tennessee. I have never actually taken this identification seriously because they were too old to be Stephen and Caleb's parents. 

So where does all this get us, in terms of figuring out the parents of Elzina and Stephen? Well, I want to talk about names. It was common in Southern families to name children after their ancestors, and sometimes this naming convention followed a specific pattern: first son for father's father; second son for mother's father; third son for father; fourth son for father's eldest brother; first daughter for mother's mother; second daughter for father's mother, etc. While I don't think Elzina and Stephen followed this tradition strictly in naming their children, I do think there might be some clues in the names they gave them. 

The children of Stephen and Elzina Roberts were: Mary, known as Polly; Samuel; Nancy; James Henry; John Ellis; Thomas Jefferson; Caleb; Cornelia; and James Nathan. These are some of the possibilities that have occurred to me, based on these names:
1. Samuel was named for Elzina's father. Elzina was not really the daughter of William and Susanna but of their son, Samuel. Samuel married Lucinda Hardcastle in 1844 when he was 38 years old. It is entirely possible, and likely probable, that Sam was married before. Elzina could be his daughter by his first wife, possibly raised by his mother, Susanna. Susanna wasn't Elzina's mother, but her grandmother.
2. Although Henry was usually Henry, on the 1880 census he is listed as James H. That means that the Roberts parents used the name James twice for their children, for Henry and for Nathan. Does this have any significance? One of my cousins has broached the idea that Elzina was the child of James Pharris, who proudly claimed to have had four wives and fathered 20 children. He wasn't clear about whether any of those children were born out of wedlock. This would be one explanation for my many Pharris DNA matches. There was a James Roberts in Jackson County who could have been Stephen's father, but his will does not list Stephen or Caleb as his children.
3. John was listed as John, Ellis, and John E. on various censuses. I had never come across anything to explain the name Ellis, until I recently saw the tree of a DNA match who showed the father of Reuben Roberts to be Ellis B. Roberts. If true, this would certainly give credence to the identification of Reuben Roberts as the ancestor of Stephen.
4. Caleb, of course, is named for Stephen's brother. This is the one name that is not in question.
5. My great-grandmother Cornelia's middle name has been given as "Dee" and as "Orange," which I thought was highly unlikely until I noticed that her headstone reads "Cornelia O. Bell." Could ancestors of this family come originally from Orange County, North Carolina, or is there some other significance to that name?
5. While usually enumerated as Nathan or Nathan J., the youngest Roberts son went by Nathan or "Naith" during his life. His headstone reads "James N. Roberts." Nathan, of course, was the name that descendants remembered as the husband of Susanna, usually known now as William Nathan Huff. He could have been Elzina's father or grandfather. However, and this is interesting, one of James Nathan's children, buried in the same cemetery, is Napoleon "Rube" Roberts, and he had a son named Reuben!






All headstones from Lamar Cemetery, Hughes Co. OK
(courtesy of Connie on Findagrave)


The D in Amy Johnson Crow's WANDER system stands for Discover, as in new records or new resources. Now we turn to what my DNA results can contribute to the question of Elzina and Stephen's parents. 

I have many matches to Huff descendants, as does my brother. Some of his are larger than mine, and some of mine are larger than his. (Which is a good reason for getting siblings tested.) Recently I worked through my matches on Ancestry, color coding by family. Since the Jackson County families are so interrelated, I made a group that I just called "Jackson County people." 

Many of my Huff matches led back to Common Ancestor William Nathan Huff, but of course, nobody had any sources for him. In many cases my Pharris matches were theoretically explained by the identification of William Nathan's mother as Nancy Pharris. As I have noticed for a long time, many of my unexplained matches are related to the Embry family--some of whom lived in Jackson County, but most of whom lived in Butler County, Kentucky. I have puzzled over this for a while now.

This is another case of having had something at your fingertips that explained something, but having forgotten you had it. I knew I had read something attached to a tree on Ancestry called "The Search for Sam Huff's Father." My new DNA cousin with connections to Granville supplied me with the original article, which was published in The Jackson County Family History Book: 200 Years of Memories. It says, "One Huff researcher in Ohio says the legend in her family is that the older Leonard Huff (...who was on Martin's Creek with the Pharis family by 1803) moved to Butler County, Kentucky, and all his sons accompanied him except two--[Leonard] "Knight" and William--and those two remained in Jackson County, Tennessee." Well, that explains Huff and Pharis connections in Jackson Co., as well as the connection with Butler Co. Kentucky Embrys. I still haven't figured out if I actually have an Embry ancestor, or if the Embry name comes in downstream with the many Huffs and Pharrises that married into that family.

My largest Huff match is a Huff on his father's side and a Pharris (with an Embry ancestor) on his mother's side. He is in his 90's and is the descendant of Sam Huff through his son George Washington Huff--the same George Huff who was visiting the Roberts family the day the enumerator came around to take the census in 1870! What is even more amazing, he is only one generation removed from George and two from Sam, since George was his father's father. He falls within the parameters of being my 1/2 2nd cousin, twice removed, which he would be if Elzina was Sam's daughter, and she and George were half-siblings. 

One ancestor I had tentatively eliminated long ago was Susannah (Toney?) Huff, as existing documentation said she was too old to be Elzina's mother. I wasn't even positive that she was Sam's mother, although the author of "The Search for Sam Huff's Father" thought she was. Again, he listed the children of William and Susanna as Sam, George, Nathan, Sara, and Elender. No Elzina, even though Sara/Sally was supposed to be her sister. One thing I hadn't done in a long time was to search for Toney matches. The last time I looked I didn't have many and those could be explained by trees that identified William Huff and Susanna Toney as the parents of Elzina. Well, times change. Just doing a simple search for Toney as a "Surname in Match's Tree" gave me over 70 results. And very few of them were tied to Susanna, the wife of William Huff; most of them went back to the same Toney family living in Goochland and New Kent counties in Virginia. I haven't made the connection yet between this family and Susanna, but that is something to work on.

These are all possibilities to Evaluate, the E in Amy Johnson Crow's WANDER system. Have I answered the "What Do I Want to Know" question about the parents of Elzina and Stephen Roberts? No, but I have Analyzed everything I do know, even things I forgot I knew. I have Noted what is missing and Discovered new resources, something I didn't think possible. Now I need to Evaluate and Repeat as necessary. 

One simple thing I hadn't really taken into account--evaluated--is the lack of records in Jackson County. Many marriage documents and wills do not exist. Maybe there aren't as many secrets in Jackson County as I thought; there are just undocumented marriages and legitimate children. Everybody has made guesses about Jackson Co. people in their trees, because there is no paper proof; so can there ever be a definitive answer? 

Maybe the answer lies in GPS--the Genealogical Proof Standard--the set of "best practices" for genealogists. In 1989 the Huff researcher who wrote "The Search for Sam Huff's Father" took the facts that had been documented along with the stories that had been passed along and reached what he felt was a logical conclusion. Maybe I can add a third component, DNA testing, arrive at a logical conclusion about the parents of Elzina and Stephen Roberts, and use GPS to make my case. Maybe that's the best I will ever be able to do.

 

Friday, June 3, 2016

New Ancestors from Ancestry?

Yesterday one of my favorite genealogy bloggers, Roberta Estes (www.dna-explained.com), wrote a post about Ancestry's New Ancestor Discoveries. If you have had your DNA tested by Ancestry, you may have noticed that you have had a lot of new NAD's recently. Last week I had 26; as of this morning, I have 11. Roberta and other bloggers have been informed by Ancestry that their new way of determining matches had led to an increase in the number of New Ancestor Discoveries, so they have refined their way of determining NAD's, leading to the decrease in number.

I have been intending for a while to talk about my New Ancestor Discoveries and see if any of Ancestry's ancestor suggestions could help me fill gaps in my tree. I'm glad now that I waited--so I don't have to talk about 26 "ancestors," but only 11! You may have noticed the quotation marks around the word ancestors. Even though Ancestry calls them by that name, I have noticed and so has Roberta, that they could just as easily be relatives from collateral lines.

For example, two of my earliest NAD's were Sarah Wheat and her husband William Jackson. Sarah, daughter of Samuel and Cynthia (Stephenson) Wheat, was a sister to my direct line ancestor, Susanna Wheat Ming. Once I had added Sarah and William to my tree, Ancestry made them DNA Circles. Now, maybe because of Ancestry's new way to calculate DNA matches, they have disappeared from my DNA Circles as well--which is fine with me, since they are not my direct line ancestors. 

So, have any of the 11 remaining NAD's been helpful in finding new ancestors? Two of the 11 are Hannah Elizabeth Embry and her husband Christopher Columbus Snodgrass. In my last post, "DNA Circle: Delilah Embry," I talked about how I have found a connection to the Embry family of Butler County KY and Jackson County TN. Delilah Embry is more than likely my 4th great-grandmother and is definitely connected to Hannah Embry--I'm just not sure how. Getting Hannah as a New Ancestor Discovery was a clue that I was on the right track, although I still don't know exactly how she fits in my tree. As she is not a direct line ancestor, her husband, Christopher Columbus Snodgrass, is just a relative by marriage.

Two more NAD's are Elizabeth Tully and her husband, Benjamin F. Burden. I match 16 of 40 members of the Elizabeth Tully DNA Circle. I think I know why she is showing up as a New Ancestor, even though, again, I don't believe she belongs in my tree. Looking at the trees of the 16 members of her DNA Circle, I can see that we have a lot of common relatives with the surname Embry or Pharris. Here's what I think is happening. I have DNA matches with each of these 16 Ancestry members, but our connection is not Elizabeth Tully or Benjamin F. Burden. The connection in each case is some common ancestor who is an Embry or a Pharris. Again, it's a clue that suggests I have a connection with the Embry and Pharris families, but not, I'm pretty sure, with Tully or Burden ancestors. It's just a coincidence that these 16 Embry or Pharris descendants also have Elizabeth Tully as an ancestor.

George Washington Oller and his wife Emily Pamela Gillham are two more suggested "ancestors." I match the same 3 members in George's and Emily's DNA Circles in amounts from 8 to 18 cM's. I don't see any common ancestors. I recognize a couple of surnames that seem to have a vague connection to some of my Kentucky people. George lived in Kentucky, Arkansas, and Oklahoma; Emily in Arkansas and Oklahoma--but not in any of the counties where I have ancestors. A mystery for now. 

William Aden Tillett and his wife Francis Irene Fullbright lived in Tennessee, Arkansas, and Hughes County, Oklahoma. My mother's family was from Hughes Co., and it's not a big or highly populated place. However, I don't see any names that connect me with William and Francis. This one would bear some further research.

Peter Terrell Fite was married to Elizabeth Matthews, and they are two more of my suggested ancestors. I have four matches in each of their DNA Circles. Of the four matches, one has a common ancestor of mine, Samuel Wheat, and another has a common unrelated ancestor, Robert Patrick. This may be another one that is just coincidence.

The last NAD is Benjamin "Norris" Finley/Fenley. I match 8 of 14 members of his DNA Circle, one of them with 35 cM's. He lived in Alabama and Texas, but not in areas where my known ancestors lived. A couple of common surnames crop up in the trees of members of his DNA Circle, but I can't make a connection to them. There is just enough here to make me think that this one needs more research. 

Are the New Ancestor Discoveries helpful? Not really, not yet, for me. I know Ancestry's point of view about DNA matching. Instead of just providing the matching segment information like other testing companies, they think that they are doing the work for us with DNA Circles and New Ancestor Discoveries. However, as you can see above, it's not that easy. It's just hard work, no matter how you go about it. Anybody that thinks that testing his or her DNA will answer all the questions is in for a surprise.


Monday, March 14, 2016

DNA Circle: Delilah Embry

The first email I received from Barbara was in July of 2012. She contacted me because my tree on Ancestry showed that I descended from William and Susannah Huff of Jackson County, Tennessee. She was contacting Huff descendants, tracking both family trees and DNA results to try to break down the brick walls that many of us had in our trees.

At the same time I received my first DNA results from Ancestry DNA. In my response to Barbara's first email I told her that I had recently discovered a connection to the Pharris family of Jackson County, one that I had not previously known or shown in my family tree. For months Barbara and I corresponded as we learned more about the Huffs and Jackson County through census records, court transcripts, and DNA results.

It was a statement that James Pharris made in a court case that convinced Barbara he was my missing link. In a deposition in September 1880, involving his children by Sarah Poston, he made this statement, "I am 75 years old. I have been married four times, have raised 20 children or had that many born alive and all lived to be pretty well grown." Barbara used census records and court cases to try to document the 20 children of James Pharris, but she could only identify 18 of them. She was convinced that one of the two missing children's names was that of my 2nd great-grandmother, Elzina.

I was resistant. Since we knew that I shared DNA with Huff descendants, Barbara and I felt sure that I had a Huff ancestor as well. We knew the identities of the four wives of James Pharris; he had not been married to a Huff. If we were going to theorize an illegitimate, or at least a previously unknown liaison between a Huff and a Pharris, then there could be many possibilities for the parents of Elzina. Time went on, and Barbara and I agreed to disagree.

I don't know exactly when I began to notice DNA matches with the ancestral surname Embry, but it was before Ancestry informed me of a "New Ancestor Discovery" named Hannah Elizabeth Embry of Butler Co., KY. I was aware of a connection between the Embry and Pharris families, and in a previous post about the subject I wished that my NAD Hannah would provide a clue to the identities of Elzina's parents, or at least one of them.

In the meantime Barbara decided to sell her house in New York and move to a sunnier climate. While her new house was being readied, she was going to stay with a cousin in Texas for several weeks this winter. She wasn't going to be that far from me; could we meet? We made tentative plans to meet in Oklahoma City, and I knew that we would be talking genealogy. In preparation I took a good look at what I knew about our common ancestors. 

Sometime last year after I had read a blog post by Roberta Estes (www.dna-explained.com), I added some names to my tree: James Pharris and his parents. Roberta said it was all right to try out some names on your Ancestry public tree in hopes that Ancestry would put you in a DNA Circle. Then you would know that someone with whom you shared DNA was also a descendant of the person around whom the circle was built. Lacking a chromosome browser, this was your best chance to learn from Ancestry's large database of ancestors and descendants. So I included some names and added a notation in parentheses: (DNA).

So just a week before I was to meet Barbara and her cousin in Oklahoma City, I looked again at my tree. And I did...something. I don't remember what. Did I add a date? Did I take out a question mark? I really don't remember, but within a few days I had a new DNA Circle for the mother of James Pharris, Delilah Embry. Out of the 11 other members of the circle I have a DNA match with 8 of them.

So is James Pharris my ancestor? Well, if he isn't, it almost has to be one of his siblings. And no, I still don't know who Elzina's mother was. Barbara has a hypothesis about that. She thinks it was Lucinda Huff, daughter of William and Susannah, and that Susannah Huff raised her granddaughter Elzina. The 1830 and 1840 censuses only list the name of the head of household, but on those censuses Susannah has a girl of the same age as Elzina living in her home.

It also appears that Lucinda had at least one other child out of wedlock. On the 1850 census Lucinda Huff, age 40, was living with her sister Polly Huff Butler and her husband Thomas. Also living in the household is Elizabeth Huff, age 7. Sometime after that 1850 census Lucinda moved to Union County IL and in 1853 married a man named Wilson Butts. By the 1860 census they had two sons, George and Francis M. Living nearby is a Thomas Butler, age 72, almost certainly Lucinda's brother-in-law, although it appears that Polly has died. Also just a few houses away is Elizabeth, who has married a young man named Ballard Collins.


1850 Jackson Co. showing Lucinda Huff with Butler family


If Elzina is the daughter of James Pharris and Lucinda Huff, she had a sister (also with James as a father?) and two half-brothers on her mother's side and at least 18 half-siblings on her father's side. It seems likely that James was her father, although sometimes I wonder about the statement that he "raised" 20 children. He obviously didn't raise Elzina, and we know for a fact that one of his wives had children by a deceased husband that James did raise. Were they among the 20 children he reported to the court? He does clarify the statement by saying that "he had [20] born alive"; that could indicate that he was only the biological father of some of them.

I think what made me doubt for so long was just pure sympathy for Elzina. If her mother was Lucinda, she was given up to her grandmother to raise, while her mother kept the younger sister Elizabeth. Her mother even left the state while Elzina was still living in Jackson County, although by then she was married to Stephen Roberts. James married four other women but not her mother. Elzina didn't even share in James's estate, although land records may prove that her home was on Pharris land. Stephen Roberts was a terrible husband to her. Since learning about her life, it becomes obvious that there is a long line of women in that family who had bad luck with men. Elzina's daughter, Cornelia, my great-grandmother, had a chance to be happy with her husband, T.J. Bell, but I think she had just seen too much tragedy in her family to ever be a happy woman.

Two and a Half Cousins

There is an upside to all of this. I did finally get to meet my cousin Barbara. On the last weekend in February she drove up from Texas with her cousin Rheta (no relation to me) and we had a great time in Oklahoma City. We had the best barbecue Barbara had had since coming to Texas ("I had to come to Oklahoma to get good Texas barbecue!"), we visited the Bombing Memorial, and then had a great time walking around Bricktown. Barbara was explaining to Rheta all the ways that she and I are related--by Huff, Pharris, and Carter ancestors--and Rheta dubbed us the "Two and a Half Cousins."

The Ancestor

Delilah, daughter of John Embry, was born about 1775 in North Carolina. Her mother's name is unknown. She married William Pharris in Madison County, Kentucky, on 25 February 1797. Most trees on Ancestry agree on four children from this union: William, James, John, and Sarah. Some also include a daughter, Delilah, born 1820, although it's more likely that she is a granddaughter, since William Pharris died before 1817.

Delilah is head of household on the 1830 census in Jackson County. Her age is ticked in the 40-49 column, although she should be about 55. Living with her is a male 15-19, a male 20-29, and a female 10-14. On the 1850 census we find Delilah, age 75, with the younger Delilah Pharris, age 30, and her children, Polly, 15, and Hugh, 3. The younger Delilah could have been the female 10-14 on the 1830 census. We think she is the daughter of James from his wife Martha Vinson, who died in 1823.

1830 Jackson Co. census--Delilah Embry household

On the 1860 census Delilah is 85, still living with the younger Delilah, 35, and children, Hugh, 12, and Son (Beauregard), 2. (Another Jackson County mystery--who is the father of the younger Delilah's children?) We know that the 2-year-old male, referred to as Son on the 1860 census, is named Beauregard because he shows up in homes with his mother Delilah in 1870 and 1880.

1860 Jackson Co. census--Delilah Embry, 85


Maybe there are perfectly innocent reasons that all these women in Jackson County have children, and continue to have children, with no husband in the home. Probably everyone then knew the circumstances and the people involved. It's sure frustrating for someone trying to document the relationships 150 years later.

The Descendants

Of the 8 matches I have in the Delilah Embry DNA Circle one descends from John and one comes from Sarah. Three show James as their ancestor. Three show the younger Delilah as a daughter, not a granddaughter--one of them descending from son Hugh and two from son Beauregard--but if she really is the daughter of James, then 6 of the 8 matches in the circle are descendants of James. My smallest match is 5.4 cM's in 1 segment; my largest match is 62 cM's in 5 segments from the descendant of John. That's a pretty large cM count, and I haven't completely accounted for the reason why, although he shows multiple Pharris and Embry ancestors in his tree. He has uploaded his results to Gedmatch, where I can compare him to some other known Huff, Embry, and Pharris descendants.


By the time of this post Barbara is on her way to her new home. What I haven't told her yet is that just this week I was added to another DNA Circle, the one for William Pharris, father of James. I share DNA with 6 of the other 9 members of his circle.

Tuesday, June 9, 2015

New Ancestor Discoveries

I've been writing about Ancestry DNA's new wrinkle on autosomal DNA matching--DNA Circles. To be considered a member of a DNA Circle based on a particular ancestor, you must have that ancestor in your tree on Ancestry and you must match DNA with at least one other person in the circle. For example, I belong to the Daniel Reed DNA Circle. Daniel Reed is my 4th great-grandfather. Out of 23 members of the circle, I share DNA with 5 members. The other 18 members share DNA with at least one other person in the circle. We all have Daniel Reed in our public trees on Ancestry.

Recently, Ancestry DNA has added another feature that they call "New Ancestor Discoveries." These are ancestors or relatives suggested by DNA evidence alone. In this post I want to look at the 8 "new ancestors" that Ancestry DNA suggests for me, based on my DNA test results and the test results of members who already have these ancestors in their family trees. (See Roberta Estes's blog, dna-explained.com, for her take on the ancestors/relatives Ancestry DNA suggested for her. She calls them Bad NAD's.)

NAD #1 -- Hannah Elizabeth Embry

The following facts were compiled from 595 trees on Ancestry, according to her NAD bio. Hannah was born 10 May 1815 in Garrard County KY. She married on 22 October 1833 in Butler Co. KY. She died 1 September 1877. Her parents were Isaac Embry (1786-1850) and Martha "Patsy" Jameson (1780-1882.) Ancestry says, "DNA evidence suggests that you're related to a group of Hannah Elizabeth Embry's descendants." I match 3 of the 11 members of the Hannah Elizabeth Embry DNA Circle.

Oh, how I wish I could figure out how I am related to Hannah Elizabeth Embry! I feel certain that I have a connection to the Embry and Pharis families of Butler Co. KY, but I have been unable to identify the exact ancestor that connects me to these two families. I suspect he is James Pharis of Jackson Co. TN, whose mother was Delilah Embry. (Many of the families of Jackson Co. TN had ties to Butler Co. KY. Delilah's father John is supposed to have died in Butler Co.) If James is the unidentified father of my 2nd great-grandmother, Elzina Huff, I don't know how I will ever prove it. Hopefully, future DNA test results will point definitively to James or some other Pharis/Embry ancestor. I will definitely keep an eye on future DNA matches to this NAD.

NAD #2 -- Christopher Columbus Snodgrass

Christopher Columbus Snodgrass (1801-1877) was the spouse of Hannah Elizabeth Embry. If, in fact, I am related to this couple, it's to Hannah and not to Christopher; however, since Ancestry relies on family trees to create DNA Circles, they have no way of showing from which spouse the DNA comes. Since my 3 DNA matches are to descendants of this couple, they both show up as my NAD's. Since Ancestry is suggesting relatives, not necessarily ancestors, I guess it doesn't really matter to them that Christopher is not my relative by DNA.

NAD #3 -- William Jackson

Ditto William Jackson. He is the spouse of my 2nd great-aunt, Sarah Elizabeth Wheat. Sarah was the sister of my great-great grandmother, Susana Wheat Ming. William was born in 1812 in White Co. TN, married Sarah in 1834 in Madison Co. AR, and died in 1879 in Pilot Grove, Grayson Co. TX. On the 1860 census of Grayson Co. TX, William and Sarah and 6 of their children are living next to William F. and Susana Ming.

According to Ancestry DNA, once I put William Jackson in my tree, he would disappear from my New Ancestor Discoveries, and that is exactly what happened. He and Sarah are now in my DNA Circles, the only circles I have that are not direct-line ancestors or their spouses. In the case of this NAD, Ancestry DNA did make a helpful suggestion.

NAD #4 -- Martha Jane Kendrick

According to her bio compiled from 104 trees on Ancestry, Martha Jane was born on 22 May 1854 in Kinderhook, Virginia. She is found on the 1860 census in Washington Co. VA. She married first in 1871 to Joel Kaylor and later to Wyndham Clark. By 1900 she was living in Madison Co. AR. She died in Pettigrew, AR in 1947. Her parents were John Kendrick (1831-1865), born in Washington Co. VA and Phoebe D. Morgan (1829-1882), born in Scott Co. VA.

Both the name Kendrick and her mother's birthplace in Scott Co. are clues as to how I could be related to Martha Jane. I do have a Kendrick in my family tree. She is Isabelle Kendrick, my 5th great-grandmother. She is the ancestor of Rachel Sargent, my 2nd great-grandmother, wife of Goldman Davidson Castle. Isabelle was born in 1754 in Stafford Co. VA and died in 1822 in Russell Co. VA. Her parents were Patrick Kendrick (1725-1803) and Jane Fox (1730-1805).

As you may have noticed, Martha Jane and Isabelle were born a century apart. Since there appears to be no direct-line connection between them, common sense would dictate that the connection between them has to be at least a generation or two before Isabelle. The way the NAD's work is that Martha Jane already has a DNA Circle. The fact that she shows up as a NAD to me is a suggestion that I would show up in her circle if I had her in my tree. Of the 4 members of Martha Jane's DNA Circle, I have DNA matches to two of them. Maybe one of their trees will give me a clue to how, or if, Martha and Isabelle are connected.

One of the two DNA matches, Azkjo55, has an extensive tree. In fact, we have two "Shared Ancestor Hints," symbolized by Ancestry's little green leaf. One of our shared ancestors is, sure enough, a Kendrick--two generations back from Isabelle. He is Thomas Kendrick (1699-1770), my 7th great-grandfather. My tree only includes my direct-line ancestor, Patrick Kendrick, son of Thomas, and Azkjo55 only shows her direct-line ancestor, John Kendrick, son of Thomas. However, if Patrick and John were, indeed, brothers, that could definitely be my DNA connection to Azkjo55 and to Martha.



Here's where genetic genealogists (and to be honest, even serious paper genealogists) have problems with Ancestry.
1) There is little evidence on most people's trees that Thomas Kendrick had two sons named Patrick and John. That's not to say that there isn't evidence, but a lot of Ancestry users borrow names from other users without documentation, or with documentation for a completely different person with the same name. Just because 104 people say that Martha Jane Kendrick was a descendant of Thomas Kendrick through his son John doesn't mean that's necessarily true.
2) To really prove a DNA relationship, according to genetic genealogists, you must have triangulation. Three descendants must match on the same DNA segment and show paper evidence (wills, census records, etc.) for the same ancestor. First of all, Ancestry doesn't give segment information, and second, Azkjo55 and I have another possible shared ancestor couple, John Barker and Martha Snead. Without segment information, we will never know if our DNA match is through the Kendricks, the Barkers, or both.

I understand why people might prefer Ancestry DNA to one of the testing companies that show matches along with segment information. It's a lot of work to match up segments with an individual and then find your common ancestor, especially when many of the people who test on Family Tree DNA, for example, don't even upload their family trees. Ancestry does all of that for you. In fact, their viewpoint is that "it's almost impossible for you to find enough matching segments with other users to have confidence that you have a common ancestor. To solve this problem, we created DNA Circles, where we collect evidence across millions of trees and DNA from all Ancestry DNA members. Because of this power of numbers, the evidence that you really did inherit DNA from the same ancestor as everyone else in the circle can increase."

I'm not sure I completely agree with them, but I've decided I'm going to try to use the information they provide, with reservations, and hope that it can help me. I think they can make a unique contribution because they do have a great number of users who have contributed trees and DNA.

I could put Martha Kendrick in my family tree, as I did with William Jackson, and see her NAD disappear to be replaced by a Martha Kendrick DNA Circle; however, since I can't prove to my satisfaction that John and Patrick Kendrick were brothers, I'm going to hold off for now.

NAD #5 and #6

Based on almost 1200 trees, Benjamin F. Burden was born in 1783 in Baltimore, MD. He married Elizabeth Tully on 6 November, 1801, in Nicholas Co. KY. He appears in Butler Co. KY by 1810 and died there on 12 May 1862. Out of 23 members of the Benjamin F. Burden DNA Circle, Ancestry says I match 10 of them by DNA. I match 9 of 21 members of the Elizabeth Tully circle.

I have absolutely no idea how I am connected to Benjamin F. Burden and Elizabeth Tully. While many of the DNA matches to the Burdens include an Embry in their trees, not all of them do. I guess it's possible that I am picking up Butler Co. KY in each of the matches but don't have a true connection with the Burden/Tully descendants. With that many matches, it's worth trying to figure out how we are related.

NAD #7 and #8

My last two New Ancestor Discoveries, at least for now, are Sabrina Cutbirth and David Wilcoxson. Sabrina was born in 1800 in Maury Co. TN and died in 1877 in Farmersville, Collin Co. TX. David was born in 1796 in Rowan Co. NC and died in 1883 in Farmersville. They married in 1825 in Tennessee.

I match 4 of 23 descendants of Sabrina and the same 4 of 20 descendants of David. Two of the 4 matches are in the same family group and administered by the same person. They are both direct-line descendants of Sarah E. Wheat and William Jackson. K.D., the administrator, is a member of four of the same DNA Circles that I am a member of: Zachariah Wheat, Elizabeth Whitley, Robert Stephenson, and Samuel Wheat. Easy, huh? Our connection is with the Wheats or their ancestors--except that the other two matches don't have Zachariah or Samuel Wheat, Elizabeth Whitley, or Robert Stephenson in their trees. 

Even Ancestry's DNA Circles and New Ancestor Discoveries don't always make things easy.